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Gregory: What is your name, first name?
Roza: Roza.
Gregory: Your age?
Roza: Twenty-three.
Gregory: Where is your home? Where are you from?
Roza: My home is in Ioannina, Greece.
Gregory: Mhm, what’s your profession?
Roza: I’m a translator.
Gregory: I’d like you to remember your childhood for the first seven questions.
Roza: Okay.
Gregory: Any age under eighteen.
Roza: Okay.
1.
Gregory: What do you know?
Roza: I can answer in two portions. I can answer from the age where I was careless, and then from the ages from fifteen to eighteen, when I wasn’t careless. [laughs] If that’s okay?
Gregory: Let’s go with careless first, yes.
Roza: Okay, careless. Uhm . . . I never really thought about what my knowledge consisted of. Either that was about the world or about what I should be . . . what I should know at school. [laughs]
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: Uh . . . being a child was just knowing that as life progressed, I will know what I will know, and that was enough for me. Uhm . . . so that’s careless, and—
Gregory: No, wait, wait, how old are you when you’re the most careless?
Roza: Hmm, I’d say from the ages of six or seven to ten years old.
Gregory: To ten years old.
Roza: Yeah.
Gregory: And . . . what do you mean by careless?
Roza: Hmm . . . careless, meaning that I never had expectations for anything. Either that was what I was supposed to be doing, or what I could be doing. Which means that I, I had my hobbies, I chose them. I didn’t care what they were or when I was doing them. And . . . I didn’t care if I was studying or not. It was just a really, a really happy part of my life. [laughs]
Gregory: Mhm. And now let’s go to the second part.
Roza: Yes. Uh, I became concerned about everything, basically.
Gregory: And what age was this?
Roza: I’d say from fourteen years old, I started doing that.
Gregory: Mhm, mhm.
Roza: So what I knew actually became a very big concern of mine, because well, mostly about school work, but also . . . I didn’t want to be misinformed, or I didn’t want to seem dull, if that makes sense?
Gregory: Mhm.
Roza: So what I knew played a huge part in how I felt.
Gregory: And what did you know?
Roza: Looking back, basically nothing, [laughs] but I tried to keep up with what I should be doing. Which was schoolwork and, as far as what life was teaching me, I tried to be realistic and logical. Back then, I probably thought I knew all that I had to . . . uhm.
Gregory: Specifically? What is “all?”
Roza: Specifically, “all,” meaning that I knew how to present myself. I knew how to treat other people, that’s what I thought at least. I thought that I was on top of everything, and that I knew how to act.
Gregory: Mhm, and what makes you think now that you didn’t know how to treat people and, uh, and so on?
Roza: Well, because when I left home, at eighteen, I realized that my interactions with people were problematic [laughs] in a sense.
Gregory: How come?
Roza: Uhm . . . well, because they never tell you when you go at eighteen years old. When you’re eighteen, everyone starts seeing you as an adult, but you’re not. And no one has prepared you for that, and not even university, at least here in Greece. It’s like school. You continue your education, so you never, you don’t even see yourself as an adult. Until you have adult interactions, so to speak, and you realize that the way you speak, and the way your, your body language, and all the ways that you’re reacting are childish. It’s like you’re fourteen again.
Gregory: And you realize this when?
Roza: After eighteen.
Gregory: After eighteen, uh-huh. Were you mean to others?
Roza: No, I wasn’t mean, but sometimes I was . . . uhm, I probably said some things about myself that I should’ve kept, like uh . . . lots of information. I probably spoke way too much. Uh, blabbering and rambling on.
Gregory: Uh-huh.
Roza: I didn’t know how to ask for things that I wanted or needed at that time. It was, I wouldn’t say like a constant whining, [laughs] but it wasn’t a proper way to ask.
Gregory: Did you have friends?
Roza: No. I didn’t. I left. I used to live in Athens, I moved to Ioannina when I was eighteen. Uhm, and that means that I left all my friends behind, but I feel like it was mutual because I stopped talking and they never made an effort.
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: Uh, so I’m not mad about it at all. I’m generally a very, uh, lonely person. [laughs]
Gregory: Do you think you were not very likable in your teenage years?
Roza: I feel like there were situations, especially as I [inaudible], I wasn’t very likable and I could see that in other people. As you go downwards, as you go to my earlier years, I feel like I was, uhm—
Gregory: You mean when you were careless?
Roza: When I was careless? Yes. When I was careless, I was a star, theoretically. [laughs] Because people like being around someone who’s careless and doesn’t burden them.
Gregory: Uh-huh.
Roza: Uhm . . . Yes, I feel like I became a very burdenful person as I grew.
Gregory: So, psychologically, you were not in the best place from fourteen to eighteen, you think?
Roza: Uh, no, but I know the reason why I wasn’t.
Gregory: And why is that?
Roza: Uhm, it’s, it’s because my family suffered heavy losses, uh, family member-wise. From the year when I was ten, that’s why I stopped at ten being careless, through the years, through sixteen, through my years of sixteen, yeah.
Gregory: Would you share what happened?
Roza: Uh, yes, uhm, I lost my mother when I was ten years old, and after that, her sister became somewhat of a mother figure. But then three years later, she died as well.
Gregory: Mhm. What about your dad?
Roza: Uh, he was there. But you know, I wasn’t the only one who lost one of his favorite people. And that took a toll on everyone. I feel like everyone was struggling to, to understand and to get over what happened.
Gregory: Do you have siblings?
Roza: Yes, I have an older sister.
Gregory: Mhm. Was her behavior similar to yours?
Roza: Uh, at first, I think it was, but I believe that I was the more open about what happened. About both deaths. She was much more . . . she appears more extroverted than I am, in life, during life, but during circumstances such as those, she’s the one who closes up the most.
Gregory: Hm, and how much older is she?
Roza: One year.
2.
Gregory: Describe what this planet smells like.
Roza: To me, it smells like pine trees.
Gregory: How old are you?
Roza: Ten, nine. Nine or ten.
Gregory: Pine trees?
Roza: Yeah.
3.
Gregory: How is it possible to forgive the unforgivable, as a child?
Roza: As a child, careless?
Gregory: Uh-huh.
Roza: [short pause] I don’t know if there is anything that, as a child, I can deem unforgivable, because I feel like I have all the heart and the courage in the world to forgive anything and I see the best in everything and everyone. So I always have at the back of my head that even if you did a bad thing, you didn’t mean it.
Gregory: And how old are you?
Roza: Nine or ten.
Gregory: Mhm, so this is the careless time?
Roza: Yeah.
Gregory: And how about after ten?
Roza: After ten, uh . . . you start to see how unforgivable some things are, and you’re scared of them.
Gregory: For example?
Roza: For example, a betrayal, a heavy betrayal, or killing someone, maybe.
Gregory: Did you encounter anything unforgivable in your teenage years?
Roza: Not that I can think of. [short pause] Maybe because I wasn’t all there, generally. [laughs] I had my own problems, so I wasn’t immersed in everyday life to even recognize an unforgivable act happening around me, but I actually did. I actually do remember one thing. Uh . . . but uh . . . It’s pretty serious. I don’t know if . . . I should say.
Gregory: Yes.
Roza: Uhm, there was one instance I remember, which was ongoing without my knowing. I used to take art classes, because I sat the Fine Arts exam here in Ioannina and I passed, but before that, I was taking lessons for two years at something like a, a private tutoring school. And this particular teacher, he was a male. I I found out after I left that he was, he had brainwashed most of the girls from fifteen years old until, I don’t know? Twenty? As long as they were going there. And he was, he was telling them that he was their boyfriend separately, and they didn’t know.
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: Uhm, but they were minors, and he was forty years old. And—
Gregory: He was telling them, one more time, he was telling them what?
Roza: He was, he had taken them, separately, privately, courted them, so to speak. And made them believe that they loved him, okay?
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: And he was with them, simultaneously, without the girls knowing, uhm, and they later figured that out in 2021.
Gregory: So he was physically involved with them.
Roza: He was physically involved while they were minors and he was forty years old.
Gregory: Mhm, and you were in that class as well?
Roza: I was, but I had no idea what was happening and I wasn’t ever courted in that way.
Gregory: Why do you think?
Roza: I think this happened because predators can see who is willing and who is not. It’s not, I don’t think I showed signs of willingness or not, I showed signs that I was in another place. [laughs] If that makes sense.
Gregory: In an introverted place.
Roza: In an introverted, uh, out of touch, living in a bubble place, so—
Gregory: Isolated.
Roza: Isolated, yes.
Gregory: Mhm. And uh . . . so this is, this was something when you found out, this was something unforgivable for you, at the time?
Roza: Yes.
Gregory: And still is?
Roza: Uh, as I grow up, I feel that’s worthy of death, actually, and I don’t find certain acts worthy of forgiveness at all. I feel like the people should just disappear.
Gregory: Mhm. And uh, what happened when this became public, right, eventually?
Roza: Uh, it probably did. Of course, since I wasn’t one of the girls who were involved, I was just contacted after years of this happening, and they told me and they asked me since they themselves didn’t know that each other. Each of them was living the same thing, they wanted to make sure I hadn’t as well.
Gregory: Mhm.
Roza: And I was terribly, terribly shocked.
4.
Gregory: What makes you happy?
Roza: Everything. [laughs]
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: Everything. Anything and everything
Gregory: Is this the “careless” you speaking?
Roza: The “careless,” yeah, the careless.
Gregory: Before ten.
Roza: Yes. Waking up, putting a fresh pair of socks, sleeping in fresh linen, going out, playing with my childhood friend, going to school even. I don’t know, singing, listening to the radio, anything, anything.
Gregory: Mhm.
5.
Gregory: Describe a world in which God exists, and a world in which God does not exist. As a child.
Roza: As a child?
Gregory: When you thought of this, yeah, as a child.
Roza: I think that when I was a child, I felt like earth was heaven with minor mishaps.
Gregory: Uh-huh, and this is again, before ten?
Roza: The careless, yeah. I found nothing wrong with the world. I knew that some bad things happen, but I thought that they were so few, that this was heaven. Mostly because of the beautiful scenery Greece has. I feel like that played a huge role in that. The sky was always blue, as I said, pine trees everywhere [laughs] and all kinds of trees actually, but pine trees are my favorite trees. Uh, yeah.
Gregory: And uh, how did your perception change after ten? Have you thought about God after ten? After your losses?
Roza: Yes, I have. Uhm, [short pause] I was born in a Christian household. I was baptized and, you know, Orthodox. But I always felt that God wasn’t an entity, it was nature. It was an aura that just made everything beautiful, that’s what I felt. So after ten, when all of this happened, I had no one to blame, and I don’t know if I blamed anyone, to be honest. It just happened. I saw it happening because sickness takes a toll on you, and you eventually see what’s going to happen, even though I wasn’t aware at the time.
Gregory: Aware of what?
Roza: Aware of that death exists. I didn’t even think about that.
Gregory: Did you think that God exists on this planet after ten?
Roza: Yeah, I did.
Gregory: But you lost hope?
Roza: I lost hope more in the sense of my, my personal pursuit of life. I don’t know if that makes sense. It’s not like I lost hope in God, because God wasn’t someone or something, it was, I felt like it was nature. So since the trees still exist and the, I could still see the blue sky on a summery day, I knew that God existed. But for some reason, this happened, and it just did, and I never gave too much thought to it to be honest.
Gregory: And would you describe a world in which God does not exist?
Roza: I don’t think I ever thought of hell when I was a child.
Gregory: Do you think that there is no God in hell?
Roza: Yes, I feel like hell is comprised only of the bad, bad, bad people and I’m talking about human life. That’s what I think.
Gregory: Mhm.
6.
Gregory: What is your most vivid memory? From your childhood?
Roza: That’s an easy one for me. Uhm, my most vivid memory is going on my first camp with the scouts when I was, as soon as my mother died, actually. Uhm, fifteen days later, I went to camp. And I was happy. I was terrifically happy and my most vivid memory was, uh, one of those days when I was sitting in a hammock, and I had pine trees all over me. I smelled them. I felt the breeze. I heard the rustling of the leaves . . . that’s my most vivid memory. It was pure happiness, blue sky. That’s it.
Gregory: Roza, fifteen days after your mom passed away–
Roza: Yeah.
Gregory: You were ecstatically happy–
Roza: I was.
Gregory: Surrounded by pine trees.
Roza: Yes.
Gregory: How do you explain that?
Roza: It was ninety percent blocking.
Gregory: Ninety percent blocking.
Roza: It was protective blocking for my brain because I, I didn’t really believe it at the time. I thought that, you know, this was all a joke, and she’s gonna come back, and I’m gonna hear that specific sound her keys made when she opened the door and, you know, it was gonna be life as it was.
Gregory: Was she ill?
Roza: Yes.
Gregory: And you saw her health deteriorate over time?
Roza: I did. I did. For the last month, I haven’t seen her at all. She was at the hospital, permanently. So I thought that they were making her better, and she was gonna come back.
7.
Gregory: What will be the kindest thing you do when you’re older? That you thought of as a child?
Roza: The kindest thing, uhm, [short pause] probably helping and caring. Helping, uhm, when someone is in need and not only if they fall to pick them up, you know? Psychologically, and physically, everything, just to be there and help. I felt like being there was a lot of help on its own sometimes.
Gregory: How old are you when you thought of this?
Roza: Nine, eight, or nine, yeah.
Gregory: Before ten again, huh?
Roza: Yeah, before ten.
Gregory: Did you think about this after ten? Kindness and what will you do in this world to make it a better place?
Roza: Uhm, well I was told after, after ten, when I was forced to speak more to my father [laughs] because before I was a momma’s kid. Uhm, I learned that it’s not about helping people as you grow up, it’s about surviving and people won’t help you. And the world can’t change, there’re too many bad people. And being good is weak. So thinking back, from ten years and over, I remember wanting and feeling like I would like to help, and that I want to do things. I felt like it was something wrong. Wrong for me, not wrong for them. Something that I shouldn’t be doing for my own survival. Not that I didn’t help, of course. Eventually, I did, but I always had . . . I was guilt-tripped into thinking that I shouldn’t.
Gregory: Who taught you this mindset?
Roza: I’d say I took it from my father mostly.
Gregory: As you started speaking with him more,—
Roza: Yes. As we engaged—
Gregory: —Conversing more.
Roza: Yes, as we engaged much more than we used to, with each other.
[pause]
Gregory: Did you love him?
Roza: I mean, he’s my father. I felt moments where I wanted to care for him and I felt like I was lucky, you know, because [laughs] there was no one left by that point. It was my grandmother and my father, so yeah.
Gregory: Your dad’s mom?
Roza: No, my mother’s mom.
Gregory: Hm. Were you close with her?
Roza: Uh, I was, yes. As close as you can be with a grandma. [laughs]
Gregory: Was she living with you?
Roza: She was. She was helping raise us. My sister and I.
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Gregory: Please answer the next seven questions from your present-day perspective.
Roza: Okay.
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8.
Gregory: What will you carry in your suitcase on the day of departure to another planet (literal or symbolic)?
Roza: Uhm . . . I’ll try to keep it as light as possible because going to another planet to me is like having a new beginning. So I wouldn’t want to take many things with me. I’d want to load up on things there, [laughs] uhm, but I would take . . . some people with me. I would take my partner, I’d try to persuade my sister. [laughs]
Gregory: Why would you need to persuade her?
Roza: Uh, well, my sister and I, we don’t talk that much anymore. We haven’t fought, but we’ve drifted.
Gregory: Why do you think?
Roza: Well, she, uh, the causes especially what happened to us. Uhm, but also because she moved to America to study, and I was here, and our, our lives they were just not on the same page anymore. I haven’t seen her for many years now.
Gregory: Even through a video call?
Roza: Even through a video call, I haven’t seen her. The only instance we did speak, it wasn’t to share news, it was because she needed some documents from me.
Gregory: Would you like to make an effort to make peace with her?
Roza: That’s the thing. I don’t know, I don’t know her perspective. I don’t know if there’s peace to be made. I just don’t know. [laughs] I don’t. I don’t know if, uhm—
Gregory: What are your assumptions?
Roza: Uhm, [sighs] my assumptions are that we’re different. We’re different people, and—
Gregory: Different people get along.
Roza: They do. That’s, that’s what I say. Uhm, but it’s about being different and being open at the same time, right?
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: Cause if you’re different, but you’re very strict about what you like and the people you’re around, then you’re gonna push many away that you could’ve gotten along with, so—
Gregory: Is it possible that you said something that hurt her?
Roza: It is. It is. I’ve taken everything into account.
Gregory: Did you say something unforgivable maybe for . . . you know, from her perspective?
Roza: No. I’ve never said anything unforgivable. I’ve never . . . even characterizing her, calling her stupid or dumb. That’s as far as I go. I never . . . I never, I never made an effort to make her feel less than, or to make her feel like she’s a problem in my life. I never did that.
Gregory: Roza, there are not many people left that you can call family in this life.
Roza: That’s what I say. [laughs] All the time. I’ve actually made . . . I’m the only one that has been making efforts all these years, uh, for example, I wasn’t very open to having social media. Not even WhatsApp to be able to talk, but I eventually did, because she said, “You’re my sister, you’re not going to talk to your sister?” and I said “Yeah, you’re right,” and I did. And I started texting her, but when I started not receiving replies, and when I made efforts to make my father talk to her and say that, you know, call her once in a while, to tell her to call me or to text me.
Gregory: Hm.
Roza: I feel like everyone’s response to that is “You know what, she’s in another country. She’s at the prime of her life. She’s living her own years, and she’s getting lost, and it’s okay. She’ll make an effort later, when she’s figured out what she wants.” That’s the response that I get, whereas I’m the one complaining about wanting to have a typical relationship. Not even a sisterly relationship.
Gregory: Hm. Does your dad talk to her?
Roza: Yes. She does talk to my father once a week.
Gregory: Once a week. So it’s very structured with your dad, too.
Roza: It is.
Gregory: It’s once a week, strictly.
Roza: Yes.
Gregory: Mhm. Do you miss her?
Roza: I do. [laughs] It’s the bane of my melancholy. [laughs]
[pause]
Gregory: Anything sentimental, literal, you would take with you?
Roza: I would take my pine trees, [laughs] my memories. I would take anything that is good. And I’d leave all the bad and the sad things behind. All of them. I will take only what is good.
9.
Gregory: How many lives would you like to live?
Roza: If I were to say multiple, would I remember my past lives?
Gregory: I don’t know, what do you think?
Roza: I don’t know. [laughs] If I remember them—
Gregory: I don’t set the rules, I’m sorry.
Roza: Okay, then I’ll answer in two portions again.
Gregory: Mhm.
Roza: If I don’t remember, then I’d only like to live one. If I do remember, I would choose, two or three?
Gregory: Two or three?
Roza: Two or three. Because in the first life, I’ll make a lot of mistakes, in the second, I’ll have time to correct some, but not all. And in the third one, well, I will know my life by heart, [laughs] so I’ll probably make no mistakes.
Gregory: So not making mistakes is important to you, huh?
Roza: Uhm . . . it depends on the mistakes. I think. For example, mistakes to me, the most important that I can make, is making my sister feel bad. Uhm, not coming to a conclusion or not getting over something idiotic or dumb, which takes up years of my life for no reason. Those are the kinds of mistakes that I’m talking about. It’s not a career, it’s not if I’m gonna go to university or not, not those kinds of mistakes. I can weather those out. Something will come along, I’ll find a way to make anything work, but I think it has to do with my relationship with my most important people. That’s where I would [unclear] want to make mistakes.
Gregory: You wouldn’t want to make mistakes?
Roza: I wouldn’t.
Gregory: Uh-huh, and you’re twenty-three you said, right?
Roza: Yes.
Gregory: Is it possible for you to make things right in the following years while you’re still here on this planet?
Roza: I’d like to think that even one year before my death, there is still hope that everything can be set right. As long as the act of doing so is genuine.
Gregory: [short pause] Mhm, and then if that happens, would you like to come back here again, the second time?
Roza: Yeah, I like life. [laughs] Generally speaking. So another shot at it would be great.
Gregory: As long as there are pine trees around, huh?
Roza: Yes, yes! Of course. Always.
10.
Gregory: What should be forgotten, and what should be remembered?
Roza: I think I partially answered that with the suitcase. Everything bad should be forgotten, not what you learned from it, but you shouldn’t contemplate on it. You shouldn’t keep mourning over it.
Gregory: How do you learn and forget?
Roza: Uhm, I think that has to do largely with your perspective. For example, I used to be someone who remembered everything bad and was very, uh, I reacted to it. I was a very reactive person, and I couldn’t forget easily. That just came with time and with acceptance. And with growing up and having bigger problems to deal with. I think problems help you overcome problems, if that makes sense? [laughs]
Gregory: Mhm. So you learn and forget. You can do that consciously?
Roza: Uh, yes. Yes, I have forgotten very awful things in my life, and to this day, I know what they were. I know the concept, I know the theme of what it was, but I simply can’t remember it.
11.
Gregory: What would you like to know?
Roza: Hmm . . . I’m a person who really likes mystery, so I don’t know if there’s something that, if there’s a piece of knowledge that I would like to be given to me, uh, instead of me searching for it. Uh, but I would like to know if there is alien life somewhere close by. That’s something I would like to know. [laughs]
Gregory: What would you do with that information?
Roza: I’d just feel good about it. [laughs]
Gregory: So you want alien life to be a real thing?
Roza: Yes, I do.
Gregory: Why?
Roza: Because I feel like people are too egotistical and very self-centered to believe otherwise and because there are so many people like that, I just wanna rub it in their face! [laughs]
12.
Gregory: Describe yourself to non-human intelligent life.
Roza: Not counting animals?
Gregory: Would you describe yourself to an animal?
Roza: Uhm, I think I would, I wouldn’t describe myself with words, but I would show myself with actions and body language.
Gregory: Mhm, but you have to describe yourself.
Roza: With words?
Gregory: Yes.
Roza: Okay, uhm, assuming that they understand me, I would describe myself as. . . uhm, a cautious explorer. [playfully laughs] Maybe—
Gregory: Anything else?
Roza: Uhm . . . well, I wouldn’t want to define my qualities because that’s also up to them. I’m not gonna tell them what I am. Uh, for example, I’m not gonna tell them that I’m melancholic, or that I’m very giddy and happy. Uhm, they’ll see that. That’s part of the action that I was talking about, but as far as my, the way I view life, it’s being cautious, but explorative, and enjoying the mysteriousness and the authenticity of life.
Gregory: And you are happy now?
Roza: Yes.
Gregory: What makes you happy now?
Roza: Hmm . . . many things do. Uh, I’m trying to get into my before-ten-years-old mentality, especially this past year. I’ve been trying to do that. Uhm, and I’ve succeeded, up to a point. So what makes me happy? Uhm, it makes me happy when I draw, it makes me happy. I just got a guitar, so that makes me happy. Uhm, it makes me happy when I’ve done all my work and I have my evening off. Whenever that happens. [laughs] It makes me happy to watch a good movie. And it also makes me happy . . . learning more of things that I don’t know. [laughs] Going back to “What do you know.”
Gregory: Hm.
13.
Gregory: What is in the middle between good and evil?
Roza: It’s beings deciding if they’re good or evil.
Gregory: Explain, please.
Roza: What I mean is, from my experience, you’re either one or the other, because you can’t be good, but having done something that’s purely evil. And when we’re saying evil, we’re not talking about lying once or twice or we’re not going Biblical with evil, here. That’s what I mean. But I feel like, especially with the human species, if one is capable of doing something so evil, then there is a possibility that the rest can as well. And what I have assumed is that on this planet, there are beings, like animals, who are born from nature and that have never in their millions of years living on this Earth have done anything evil. Or deemed evil. Because nature has rules. Anything that’s evil, or . . . there is no evil in nature, that’s what I believe. But if anything is bad, they will, they will answer to consequences, and that is fair. But when there’s people, I think people have brought the meaning of evil and the word evil on this planet.
14.
Gregory: Where are you coming from, and where are you going?
Roza: I’m coming . . . well, are we talking about places?
Gregory: However you may interpret it.
Roza: I interpret it abstractly.
Gregory: Mhm, go ahead.
Roza: Uhm . . . I’m coming from a place where I was created, and I took many wrong turns, and made almost every mistake that anyone could’ve told me to avoid. And I’m starting to find a path up a mountain that is mine. That’s where I’m going. [short pause] Psychologically speaking, there was no one to tell me how and what to avoid.
Gregory: Do you blame yourself then, for making those mistakes?
Roza: I used to. I used to tell myself, “You’re not the only person who has been through such and such, so why did you fall like that and why did you react in such a way?” and, you know? But then I realized that contemplating on why? What if? And what if that had happened? And why didn’t it happen? It just doesn’t matter. It just doesn’t matter.
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If I see what I want,
I see every color.
If I just see,
I see every hue.